S. E. Hinton is the author of a number of bestselling and beloved books for young adults, including THAT WAS THEN, THIS IS NOW; RUMBLE FISH, TEX, and of. THAT WAS THEN, THIS IS NOW [S. E. Hinton] on *FREE* shipping on "This is a daring, delightful, and transformative book." ―Arianna. That Was Then, This Is Now book. Read reviews from the world's largest community for readers. Does growing up have to mean growing apart?Since ch.

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The book, like Rumble Fish, takes place in Tulsa, appears in That Was Then, This Is Now and even. Complete summary of S. E. Hinton's That Was Then, This Is Now. than that of The Outsiders, yet Hinton is even more programmatic in this second book. Teenagers love the gritty realism of this novel. Read Common Sense Media's That Was Then, This Is Now review, age rating, and parents guide.

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I read all 4 of her novels repeatedly for years. Then drooled over the casts of the movies.

I felt a bit nostalgic when I noticed this audiobook at my library and immediately checked it out. I traveled back in time. Of course how I feel about the storyline now is not nearly as overpowering as it was 35 years ago, but I appreciated the flashback.

Oct 17, Mike rated it it was ok Shelves: The Outsiders is one of the most important books in YA history.

I doubt it was the first book to portray poverty and gang violence among teenagers realistically, but it was the first to get popular, and it hugely expanded the boundaries of what books for kids could do, in a way that's never been done before or since.

With The Outsiders, Hinton paved the way for authors who took teenagers seriously as an audience to write about important issues. Well, they wouldn't be possible without Hinton's influence. Books can be influential without being good, but I'm happy to say that I did moderately enjoy The Outsiders. It had its flaws, but it's a solid YA book, especially considering that Hinton was doing something she'd essentially never seen done before.

So it made sense that it would be good to check out her follow-up. This book didn't have the same popularity that The Outsiders did, but I still see it in used bookstores every once in a while. But, unfortunately, this turned out to be a far weaker book than The Outsiders. I can see why this book wasn't as popular or acclaimed as The Outsiders - it's just not as impactful or well-written.

The first problem is immediately irritating, from the opening pages of the book: Bryon is constantly telling us things about the other characters, rather than letting us see for ourselves. This telling, rather than showing, is essentially how every character in the novel is constructed.

It got to the point where I'm not even sure if these characters are at all developed - perhaps they just have a lot of informed traits. It gets difficult to tell when Hinton feels the need to inform us of every single thing about them.

This device isn't just a lazy way out of using subtlety, it's also an active barrier to letting us connect to these characters. There's no way for a character to feel like a real person when their character traits are being constantly shoved down our throats. Characterization just doesn't work that way. Allowing the reader to do some work in picking up on character traits is essential in keeping the reader engaged - without that, there's no reason for the reader to stay interested.

It doesn't help that the plot is so meandering and flimsy. There's no overarching conflict here, just a bunch of barely-related plot threads. There's just no forward motion behind this book. The characterization doesn't provide it, and neither does the plot. There's no real tension, no buildup to any sort of real or emotional climax.

Things in this book kind of just happen, often never to be brought up again. Hinton just doesn't seem to have a good idea of what she wants to say here. Many of the plot threads have potential themes that could arise from them, but there's no one idea that unites the whole book.

That's probably the biggest strength that The Outsiders has compared to this novel. In The Outsiders, Hinton knew exactly what she wanted to say, and everything in the novel built up to that set of ideas. Here, Hinton has no idea what she wants to say, so she has nothing to build the novel around. That's why it ends up so cheap and flimsy. This isn't a horrible novel.

Bryon's voice is functionally identical to Ponyboy's, but it at least makes the setting feel immersive. And Hinton definitely does write dialogue well, even if it feels extremely dated today. But there's not much reason to read this novel.

It's both far less influential and not nearly as good as The Outsiders, so just go ahead and read that instead of wasting your time here.

This review can also be found on my blog. Oct 27, Mary rated it did not like it. I had to read The Outsiders for class and had the option of reading That Was Then, This is Now for an assignment, which I decided to do since The Outsiders is great and I'll probably never read this book if I don't now. First off the synopsis the book gives you is a lie, what Byron discovers is in the very last chapter of the book!

The real small summary was that a boy named Mark lives with Byron and Byron's mom. Byron and Mark hustle at poker frequently and manage to be friends with the owner of the building. Byron meets a girl named Cathy who he's smitten by but Mark can't stand her. But when something unfortunate happens to the owner of the poker place, opinions on the world are changed, Mark seams to live in the moment and sorta doesn't care and is much less sad while Byron thinks it's all his fault and feels awful for it!

The book if it didn't have the ending it does would've probably been a three there isn't truly a moment I'm on the edge of my seat, but how much drama can you expect from a short story? But the ending is completely miserable and frankly I've given up on having perfect endings and I'm done being bother by them Sep 04, Leena Ali rated it it was amazing Shelves: This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers.

To view it, click here. This book is about a guy named Bryon. He lives with his mom and his best friend Mark, lives with him cause both of marks parents died. Mark and Bryon have been best friend way before Mark moved in.


One day Bryon had a really bad headache and wanted a cigarette. SO he reached under Marks bed to get the box that Marks keeps the cigarettes in. And he saw drugs in the box.

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So he called the police right away and he didn't know why he betrayed Mark. When Mark came in the room, Bryon looked at him, and This book is about a guy named Bryon. When Mark came in the room, Bryon looked at him, and Mark said "Don't worry, I don't drink it,I just sell it" And Bryon said "I called the police" Mark went white and he tried to understand what his best bud had done.

Mark told Bryon that he could've stopped if he didn't want him to sell them. But it was to late for Mark to do anything now,he can hear the siren beside their house.

The police men came in and held marks arms tightly while Bryon told everything to the police about Marks job. Mark didn't do anything, he just started to cry and went with the police men. One day in jail, Bryon went to visit Mark, and mark said"I'm glad your here Its an amazing book. Dec 17, Abby rated it liked it. The book was so good During the journey of Bryon and Mark, that is. It was emotional, breathtaking, and shocking!

Hinton is an obvious gifted writer, I'll tell anyone! Bryon is a kid who's focused on the big picture.

He's serious but has fun if it's hassling or just being the cool kid. He's a wise-crack kid and the biggest player in Tulsa. He never says "I love you" with feeling. But that was until Cathy came along.

Mark is the joker. He's the one who can hardly speak a s The book was so good He's the one who can hardly speak a sentence with out grinning like Two-Bit character from The Outsiders. He's a 'lion' with blond hair and golden eyes. He's someone who focuses on the moment but will does this help? They've been together for almost ever. Now, that relationship is breaking slowly, crack by crack.

Secrets pull them apart, realizations bring them back with anger, and brilliant words connect them. With Bryon growing up and Mark longing to be in the past, can they be best friends? Can they be even friends? This novel keeps you gasping in a total of 11 chapters until the last page. And it's the last page that shocks you the most. Jul 15, Janie rated it it was ok Shelves: I really tried to like this book.

I loved the Outsiders, and I liked seeing some of those characters again. Brian and Mark just seemed a lot meaner to me though, without as many redeeming qualities.

The thing that bothered me the most was the ending; it left me really dissastisfied. Whenever something ends sadly, people say it's realistic, but happy endings exist in real life, and would it kill authors to put one in every now and then? Nov 09, Brian marked it as to-read Shelves: Another I read as a child. Oct 26, Ian Ochieng rated it really liked it. That Was Then, This Is Now was a very eye opening read that becomes more exciting from the start to the end. I like Bryon, because the more he has life long experiences, the more he starts to realize reality.

As the story develops Mark realizes how people really are. Mark learns that just becau That Was Then, This Is Now was a very eye opening read that becomes more exciting from the start to the end.

Mark learns that just because you may be close with someone in the past that they can change to be completely different people later on.

He begins to realize that although Mark is his brother that he is a bad influence.

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This was wrong. This shows that Bryon is starting to realize how the world really is, and that people may not who they really seem they are. I enjoyed seeing Bryon grow as a person, and to stop being blinded of the stereotypes of the world he lives in.

I would recommend this book to people that enjoy reading about realizations of what the world is really like. Oct 26, Chris Clinton rated it really liked it. Bryon goes through a lot of things, especially for a teenager, and he changes his ways tremendously.

Bryon experiences a lot of things like, gang violence, death, and depression. Bryon is a good character to display what went on in that society. Bryon starts off the book as a carefree teenager who seems to be living his life but that changes all of a sudden when he goes through a midlife crisis.

He experiences one of his friends dying, he also experiences his friend Mark get hit in the face with a bottle which caused a lot of bleeding. I recommend this book to people who like books about how the old days were and what the struggle was like for some people.

Sep 17, Jason rated it it was amazing Recommends it for: I like The Outsiders more, but Ms. Hinton shows us with her second book that she can, indeed, stay gold. And I'll admit that this is the better written book. She improves a lot between ages 16 and 20, but some of the minor annoyances are still there.

And I loved the story in this one; just look at all the stars I gave it. But there's a special place in my heart for The Outsiders mostly due to the movie, and that's that.

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And how awesome is it that Ponyboy makes a brief appearance in this? Uber aw I like The Outsiders more, but Ms. Uber awesome! The dude's cool as a fan. But this isn't about Ponyboy. It's about Bryon and Mark, besties who grow apart. Once Bryon started moving toward adulthood, I could barely put the book down. I understand him completely. I understand his feelings and turmoil.

I understand his decisions not that I would've made the same ones. I understand his eventual apathy. I understand his "just let me get the fuck away from here" attitude that's implied at the end. And yet I also understand Mark, though he's quite different from Byron. At least I understand part of Mark. I understand the hate, and I'm well acquainted with wanting to hold a grudge. For some people, not holding a grudge comes naturally. For me it takes a lot of work. My natural inclination is to despise the mahfah to the end of his days, and Mark was betrayed pretty severely.

But I understand.

Yet I also don't like it. I'm quite conflicted, but I'm not pissed off about it at all. What's the story? Best friends become enemies when one accepts violence and crime and the other turns against that life.

Bryon and Mark grow up together on the wrong side of the tracks, get into fights, and hustle pool. But Bryon changes, while Mark doesn't. Teenagers love the gritty realism of this novel and the story of a boy's inner turmoil.

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Your rating has been recorded. Write a review Rate this item: Preview this item Preview this item. That was then, this is now Author: S E Hinton Publisher: New York: Viking Press, Print book: Juvenile audience: Sixteen-year-old Mark and Bryon have been like brothers since childhood, but now, as their involvement with girls, gangs, and drugs increases, their relationship seems to gradually disintegrate. Allow this favorite library to be seen by others Keep this favorite library private.

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Fiction, Juvenile audience Document Type:And was surprised when I told her this was good. It's a fine question, but I'm not sure the way Hinton went about illustrating it is the most effective.

May 17, Jacki rated it it was amazing Shelves: The resolution was hardly a resolution in my eyes; it was probably the most realistic ending. To be sure, they are older now and Ponyboy has likely matured. Books by S. Randy, who was in The Outsiders, also appears as a hippie in this book, which is appropriate to those who have read or seen The Outsiders, as Randy is an affluent kid who feels guilty about the class division and becomes repulsed by it, which is the background and beliefs of many hippies.